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Sunday, August 31, 2008
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It may fairly be said that when it comes to background and experience, no presidential election in United States history has presented such a sharp contrast between the two leading candidates as does the one to be decided Nov. 4.

Sen. John McCain, D-Ariz., 72, is a career military man from a decorated family who has served in the Congress since his rival was 21 years old.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 48, was born along America’s most distant shores and emerges from a family background unlike any other presidential candidate to take center stage.

John McCain is the son of a son of a Navy veteran. He graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1958 and served in the Navy for 23 years. In the Vietnam War he flew dozens of bombing missions against the Communist North Vietnamese before being shot out of the sky. He spent nearly six years as a prisoner of war.
Eight years after his release he was elected to Congress, first as a representative and later as a senator, replacing GOP standard-bearer Barry Goldwater in 1986.

He is known as a maverick lawmaker who speaks candidly on the issues and crosses party lines to achieve his goals. In 2002 he joined with liberal Democrat Russ Feingold to pass campaign finance reform. In 2007 he co-sponsored an ultimately unsuccessful immigration reform measure with Democrat Ted Kennedy. Despite McCain’s maverick reputation, a Washington Post tally shows he voted with the Republican Party leadership 88 percent of the time in the current Congress.
In 1987 McCain was one of five lawmakers who improperly met with federal banking regulators on behalf of Charles Keating, Jr., the owner of a troubled savings and loan who was seeking lenient treatment from the government. Others were held more culpable than McCain. He was issued a mild rebuke from the Senate Ethics Committee in 1991.

This is McCain’s second presidential run. He was an early favorite in 2000, winning support for his Straight Talk Express campaign tour and taking the New Hampshire primary before George W. Bush won the nomination.

McCain’s Senate career included several years as chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee. He remains on the Commerce Committee, as well as on Armed Forces and Indian Affairs, the last an important role for his state of Arizona.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and spent many of his early years outside of the United States. He was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii by his mother, an Anglo-American with roots in Kansas, and his Indonesian stepfather. Obama’s father is a black native of Kenya.

Obama became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review and graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991.

Upon graduation he returned to Chicago, where he had first lived in 1985. While practicing law Obama became involved in urban ward politics and civil rights issues, and in four years was elected to the Illinois State Senate.

After four terms Obama topped GOP candidate Alan Keyes to replace Republican U.S. Sen. Peter Fitzgerald.

In the state Senate, Obama worked to pass an ethics reform bill in a state plagued by political scandal.

Obama’s rhetorical and political skills have won him widespread admiration and success, yet his legislative record is slight.  In the U.S. Senate, Obama co-authored a measure that makes public a list of all recipients of federal funding, addressing concerns of secret earmarks and patronage. He also authored a bill in 2007 that would have blocked the troop surge in Iraq. He has consistently called for a redeployment of the troops in Iraq.

A Washington Post tally shows he voted with the Democratic Party leadership 96 percent of the time in the current Congress.

One of Obama’s major financial supporters, Chicago real estate developer Tony Rezko, has been convicted of influence-peddling in a matter related to Illinois politics but not linked to Obama.

This is Obama’s first presidential run.

In the U.S. Senate he is a member of the Foreign Relations, Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs and Health, Education and Labor and committees.
36 comment(s)

JimClark wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:50 AM:

" I would like to suggest that there is a profound difference between Democrat and Republican as opposed to Conservative and Liberal. Our Declaration Of Independence and The Constitution Of The United States Of America were discussed, debated and fought over by liberals and conservatives who had but one goal; the creation of principles that all humankind should be held as equal. Republicans and Democrats have agenda of their own and, to my mind, runs counter to what the founders created. Laws are passed that incrementally relieve us of the rights that run counter to what our founders envisioned for The People. In 1776, 55 men debated, argued and fought for what declared our independence from Britain. Are we to allow the chipping away of what is ours by historical fiat? Democrats and Republicans have agenda of their own. I lived in Santa Cruz for three years and hosted many pleasant dinners at my humble apartment. My guests came to find great comfort in the debate as opposed to the 1960s anger and hostility. The most radical realized their rhetoric was not acceptable during our after dinner conversations. Those who could not release their indoctrination bid us adieu. There was plenty of spirited debate, as we all knew we would not change the world in my humble abode. Our time together was very well spent; though we differed in our opinions, there was respect all around. We talk of meeting again but, times and locations don’t allow what once was. I sincerely hope those who read this will hold such beautiful memories in their hearts and minds and allow that which is not so memorable give a balance to what life is really all about I miss those times yet, in reality, they cannot be relived. "

a teacher wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:35 AM:

" America's most distant shores would be Alaska. Napa to Honolulu-2400 mi, Napa to Fairbanks-3100 mi.

Just thought I'dpoint that out... "

TrickleDown wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:25 AM:

" It is funny that Obama "being born along America's most distant shores" is apparently worthy of mention twice, but the fact that McCain was not even born within the United States doesn't even get mention. "

kevin wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:41 AM:

" Jim, during the days of the Founders, Liberal had a much different connotation. ALL the Founders were "Liberals". It was much more aligned with libertarianism than it is today. Socialism and Communism hadn't even been "invented" yet! When it was, the new "Liberals" quickly adopted Marx's teachings and the Progressive movement was born. Conservativism is really nothing but the old Liberalism: life, liberty and property... "

jwk wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:34 AM:

" It's Simple, Like him or not, McCain has done many, many things for the Good Old USA and Obama has done nothing!! "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:37 AM:

" TrickleDown wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:25 AM: "....McCain was not even born within the United States...."

It's never mentioned because that statement is not true... McCain was born on a US military base, which IS in the United States...

A quick review of 6th grade geography and the law will correct that statement.... "

MarkMathews wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:58 AM:

" TrickleDown is correct in pointing out that Senator McCain was not "even born within the United States." He was in fact born in a United States military hospital in what was then called The Panama Canal Zone (before democrat Jimma Carter gave it away). Since his parents were military, this made him a citizen of this country as well. My own brother was born in the US military hospital in Yokosuka Japan; same situation, as his father was also a military member. "

musikluvr wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:51 AM:

" What's all the fuss. The dems have never had an electable candidate since the race for president began. I just want to thank them to handing the election to the Republicans without a fight. "

freeport56 wrote on Aug 31, 2008 1:11 PM:

" Nicely said Kevin. "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 31, 2008 2:52 PM:

" Dwayne-

Which one of the fifty states was McCain born in?


It did seem weird that the whole "distant shores" line was added to Obamas bio when McCain was born much further away "

Bill wrote on Aug 31, 2008 2:56 PM:

" The easy paint brush of describing anyone with the slightest modern liberal leaning with the charge of socialist or communist is an irrelevant internet barb and nothing new or truthful is exposed in its use. A handy tool not of the founder’s concepts but of a 1950’s mind set grown from fiction into applied juvenile categorization.

Attempting to paraphrase Locke brings one into line, not with the American revolutionaries who understood they held in COMMON many resources and freedoms and were oppressed as much by the East India company as the agent of the crown as they were the Royal House of Hanover but rather with the old school of mercantilism and the strictures of convention defended by the English liberal Burke.

It is more of a struggle between Burke and Paine but then that is a little too troubling and complex for internet barbs denying the communal founding of the supposed new world and the theories that sustained much or the frontier communities during and after the American revolution.

Modern liberals are more of a mix of libertarian concepts and the realization that society is RESPONSIBLE for common individual needs without the frozen Lockean or Hobbesian attitude proselytizers would use to justify their current form of conventional fashion or Neo-Platonism.

This is more likely a scenario as a rant than continually equating Marx to modern liberalism or progressivism. "

JimClark wrote on Aug 31, 2008 3:40 PM:

" Kevin: No argument from me. "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Why is this editorial, guest-atorial, commentary or whatever not attributed to ANYBODY? 'Journalists' or 'Editorial Boards' are supposed to attach their names or pen names to their work. There's not even a 'pen name' attached to this. Why is there no attribution??? Who's the fraidy cat?

Beyond that fact that nobody claims this 'whatever it is' there is FAR TOO MUCH...

TROLLING OVER NON-ESSENTIALS!!!

I want to know what McCain and Obama propose to do for America in the next four years should they be elected.

For instance, now that the government of Iraq wants a firm timeline for US troop withdrawals is John McCain going to say whether he will abide by the wishes of the 'sovereign' Iraqi government? Barack Obama wants to withdraw troops so I believe the the candidate with the fuzzy position is John McCain.

NVR Editorial Board, you own the ink barrel and you can pick your own issues to discuss with Napa's voters -- but PICK SOMETHING IMPORTANT would ya? PLEASE?

Could we please have something about the issues facing our country instead of yet another unflattering biography of both candidates?

I don't care that Obama was born in Hawaii nor do I care much that McCain was born on a military base -- I am willing to stipulate that both men meet the Constitutional requirements to hold office.

Their Vice Presidential picks are both largely irrelevant to picking the next president on issues as well.

Memo to NVR Editiorial Board - Could you please get down to something that MATTERS for a change?

If you want to post unattibuted drivel, please just say so at the top.

~Ruff "

TrickleDown wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:20 PM:

" Dwayne. My point that the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii was mentioned twice in this piece and where McCain was born, which is outside what the traditional borders of the united states, was not even mentioned. Do you deny this is the case.

If you are so confident about all it requiring to show McCain was born "in the United States", then why did the McCain campaign check to make sure this is the case (according to your Cheney-ish reply all they had to do was consult a sixth grade classroom). I would love to see where you find this so clear in the law that a military base is considered U.S. soil (sixth-grade accessible, of course).

The question is still there...why not mention where McCain was born in the piece? "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:12 PM:

" Hear Ye wrote on Aug 31, 2008 2:52 PM:
" Dwayne-

Which one of the fifty states was McCain born in?"

Ohhh good grief... Do your homework...

Anyone born on a US military base was born in the USA... You know that, so what's the argument...???...!!!

It's not like Obama has a lawsuit filed for having a verified forged birth certificate in Hawaii.... "

kevin wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:18 PM:

" Oh crap. Ruff actually said something that I agree with.

Is the world still spinning on it's axis? "

Raven wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:46 PM:

" ruff...most newspapers never give attribution to their editorials.....it may be written by one person, but is adopted by the consensus of the paper's editorial board.

and while Kevin may have said it nicely, many historians would disagree with the descriptions of the founding fathers as liberals... many consider the prime motivation for the Constitution not a need for outlining our rights, but rather a move to come up with a system to protect property rights....


and there is sooo much difference between progessive and marxism and leninism and socialism it is almost laughable to see the way the 'ism's' are tossed around interchangeably... "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:39 PM:

" Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:12 PM: ".....I am willing to stipulate that both men meet the Constitutional requirements to hold office. "

How kind of you, considering that Obama's birth certificate has been declared a forgery and there is a lawsuit filed over that...

I won't 'stipulate' anything... Obama may not be qualified for any nubber of reasons, but concerning this point it's the Constitution that's being ignored...

While the mainstream media cheered his little speech, they also ignore what really matters...

It will come to the forefront, trust me.... "

russ wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:43 PM:

" Obama supporters,

You have fallen into the web of the imaginary, marketing created candidate, Barack Obama.

Obama is not a real person but is an apparition conceived by an entity which takes advantage of an uneducated, unhappy, dependent part of America's population which expects government to take care of them.

Obama is nothing more than an attractive Superbowl half time performer.

Who is Barack Obama, where has he been, what has he done for the past 20 years. What is a community organizer? Do we need an experienced one in the White House?

Obama has no leadership history, no experience, no background. John McCain does. "

misfit wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:37 PM:

" Here is Barack Obama’s record on rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina.
• Sept. 2, 2005: Obama holds press conference urging Illinoisans to contribute to the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.
• Sept. 5, 2005: Obama goes to Houston to visit evacuees with Presidents Clinton and Bush.
• Sept. 7, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a national emergency family locator system
• Sept. 8, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a National Emergency Volunteers Corps.
• Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Katrina Emergency Relief Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Harry Reid
• Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Hurricane Katrina Bankruptcy Relief and Community Protection Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Russ Feingold
• Sept. 12, 2005: Obama introduces legislation requiring states to create an emergency evacuation plan for society’s most vulnerable
• Sept. 15, 2005: Obama issues public response to President Bush’s speech about Gulf Coast rebuilding.
• Sept. 21, 2005: Obama co-sponsors bill to establish a Katrina commission to investigate response to the disaster introduced by Hillary Clinton
• Sept. 21, 2005: Obama appears on NPR to discuss the role of poverty in Hurricane Katrina.
• Sept. 22, 2005: Obama and Coburn’s Hurricane Katrina financial oversight bill unanimously passes Senate committee.
• Sept. 22, 2005: Obama’s amendment requiring evacuation plans unanimously passes Senate committee.
• Sept. 28, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement about the need for a Chief Financial Officer to oversee the financial mismanagement and suspicious contracts occurring in the reconstruction process
• Sept. 29, 2005: Obama and Coburn investigate possible FEMA refusal of free cruise ship offer
• Oct. 6, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement on FEMA Decision to re-bid Katrina contracts
• Oct. 6, 2005: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Infrastructure Redevelopment and Recovery Act of 2005. "

misfit wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:39 PM:

" CONTINUED...

• Oct. 21, 2005: Obama releases statement decrying the extension of FEMA director, Michael “Brownie” Brown’s contract. Obama calls Brown’s contract extension, “unconscionable.”
• Nov. 17, 2005: Obama and Coburn introduce legislation asking FEMA to immediately re-bid all Katrina reconstruction contracts.
• Feb. 1, 2006: Obama gives Senate floor speech on his legislation to help children affected by Hurricane Katrina
• Feb. 2, 2006: Obama introduces legislation to help low-income children affected by Hurricane Katrina
• Feb. 23, 2006: Obama issues statement responding to a White House report on Hurricane Katrina. Obama noted that the top two recommendations that the report had for the federal government were initiatives he had been working on since immediately after the storm hit. Obama called the administration’s response “delinquent.”
• May 2, 2006: Obama gives speech about no-bid contracts in Hurricane Katrina reconstruction
• May 4, 2006: Obama’s legislation to end no-bid contracts for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction passed the Senate.
• June 15, 2006: Obama and Coburn announce legislation to require amendment to create competitive bidding for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction for federal contracts over $500,000. Although it passed previously, the language was stripped in conference.
• June 15, 2006: Obama releases podcast about his pending Katrina reconstruction legislation in the Senate.
• June 16, 2006: Obama and Coburn get no-bid Hurricane Katrina reconstruction amendment into Department of Defense authorization bill.
• July 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn’s legislation to end abuse of no-bid contracts passes senate as amendment to Department of Defense authorization bill.
• August 11, 2006: Obama visits Xavier University in New Orleans to give Commencement address
• August 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn ask FEMA to address ballooning no-bid contracts for Gulf Coast reconstruction "

misfit wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:40 PM:

" CONTINUED... part 3

• Sept. 29, 2006: Obama and Coburn legislation to prevent abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disaster passes Senate to be sent to President’s desk to become law.
• Feb. 2007-Present: As Obama begins his Presidential campaign he references Katrina as a part of his stump speech as he travels around the country in his familiar line, “That we are not a country which preaches compassion and justice to others while we allow bodies to float down the streets of a major American city. That is not who we are.”
• June 20, 2007: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Housing Recovery Act of 2007 introduced by Senator Chris Dodd.
• July 27, 2007: Obama and colleagues get a measure in the Homeland Security bill that will investigate FEMA trailers that may contain the toxic chemical, formaldehyde.
• Aug. 26, 2007: Obama outlines a detailed Hurricane Katrina recovery plan.
• December 18, 2007: Obama calls on President Bush to protect affordable housing in New Orleans
• February 16, 2008: Obama releases statement on toxic Gulf Coast trailers "

John Richards wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:14 PM:

" You wrote: "Which one of the fifty states was McCain born in?"
Note that people born in the District of Columbia are not born in one of the 50 states either, yet their US citizenship is not questioned. So, your question is moot. "

John Richards wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:32 PM:

" Apparently there is some question as to whether Obama was really born in Hawaii. One story has it that his mother and father were in Kenya just prior to the birth, and she was prevented from flying back to Hawaii for his birth because the airline considered her stage of pregnancy to be too advanced. "

Raven wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:37 AM:

" okay dwayne...let's see if we can make this simple......his birth certificate has been declared legal and valid by the Hawaii department that handle public records...I know this won't end your belief in the web myth and the vast conspiracy but there it is... "

russ wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:04 AM:

" misfit,

Thanks for copying all of that stuff from the Pro-Obama website;

"Think On These Things
Random Thoughts on the 2008 Presidential Election with a Pro-Obama Slant"

Google it. Wonder how much of a pro-Obama slant. "

freeport56 wrote on Sep 1, 2008 11:01 AM:

" Raven-

where is all the information on the "Certification of Birth"...?


by the way misfit-

most of everything you posted, is already incorporated in state laws regarding emergency services. The fact the Democratic Governor and Mayor of New Orleans misappropriated funds and never acted timely seem to be forgotten by the left. Noiw you see a Governor who knows how to respond in a crisis, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Republican. "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:33 PM:

" fp56 - There is ample information about Obama's "Certification of Birth" as the State of Hawaii calls it at:

factcheck dot org

High-quality photos, descriptions, and several people stating that the document presented even has the 'raised-seal' that some bumpkins deny exists on the document.

fp56 - Obama is indeed a native-born citizen eligible to be president no matter what size tinfoil hat you care to wear.

~McRuff "

Raven wrote on Sep 1, 2008 3:53 PM:

" yep...factcheck dot org....probably the most unbiased site on the web "

musikluvr wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:22 PM:

" Just the headline of this article disqualifies Obama and Biden. Why go on? "

russ wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:52 PM:

" Jindal in 2012. "

kevin wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:39 PM:

" So now with all the Dems attention on whether or not Palin's grandchild is a b*stard or not, the question arises: is B.O. a b*stard?

Where is his parent's MARRIGE LICENSE?

Can't we focus on ISSUES?? "

Raven wrote on Sep 1, 2008 11:13 PM:

" kevin, exactly what does it matter if anyone's parents are married.... "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:41 PM:

" JR-


So we know McCain wasn't born in D.C., so again what state was he born in? "

russ wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:03 PM:

" McCain was born in the United States, same as if he was born in the US Embassy in Iran.

Issues, real issues?

How about a real energy program which will guarantee more oil and alternatives.

Liberals keep picking at nits. "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:52 PM:

" Russ-

You missed the point. People want to question where Obama was born or write that he was born on our most "distant shores" but don't acknowledge where McCain was born.


Issues? Amen, that is what I have been preaching for months. Instead, I use most of my time on here debunking the lies and smears that get posted constantly. My vote this November will be based on issues and issues alone. "

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