PUC floats new plan
Retirement center now part of Angwin proposal
By JESSE DUARTE
For the Register
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Roughly 100 Angwin residents got their first look last week at possible changes to the Angwin eco-village, including the addition of a retirement center.
But the changes don’t appear to satisfy some residents who remain opposed to major development.
Pacific Union College and developer Triad Communities are proposing to take 105 regular housing units out of the project and add a 105-unit retirement center south of the current location of the College Market.
Those adjustments would preserve the ball fields on the west side of Howell Mountain Road, leaving an important community asset and a belt of green space.
Unlike the old plan, the new plan would leave in place most of the existing housing at Brookside Apartments and Mobile Manor.
The college and Triad say the changes were based on feedback they received from the Angwin community. But some of the attendees at Tuesday’s meeting still had serious concerns about the eco-village’s impact on local infrastructure.
“The biggest issue is the road. There’s one road in and out of Angwin,” said Pat Brown. “And the other big issue is water.”
PUC and Triad representatives said an upcoming environmental impact report will take an in-depth look at issues such as water and traffic.
The addition of a retirement center didn’t do much to allay the fears of Angwinite Andrea Rahn. “I think this is all about money,” she said. “I think they’re making the biggest mistake they could ever possibly make.”
Paul Pugh of Angwin was impressed that representatives of the college and Triad were making an effort to answer the community’s questions. He said adding a retirement center and preserving the ball fields are both good ideas.
“Whether the houses will sell is another story,” he said.
Most members of Save Rural Angwin — the community group fighting the eco-village — say they would support a 191-unit development that’s already been pre-approved by county planners.
Early on in the process, eco-village proponents suggested that project wasn’t a viable option because it wouldn’t do enough to help the college make the money it seeks to boost its endowment.
On Tuesday Triad representative Kevin Block said that although the 191-unit project isn’t as attractive for the college as the eco-village, “it does pencil out” financially.
However, he and other eco-village proponents said the 191-unit project is a lesser alternative for the school and the community because it doesn’t include eco-village components such as new parks and trails, solar and geothermal power, a new sheriff’s substation and the use of reclaimed water for landscaping and irrigation.
That argument struck a chord with Edwin Segura, who took note of maps showing that the 191-unit project would include new housing near his Cold Springs Road home.
He said he prefers the eco-village, particularly the new retirement center: “I’m at that age right now, and I’d love to move into a retirement house,” he said.
Save Rural Angwin’s Kellie Anderson wasn’t swayed. She said she appreciated the opportunity for community members to share their opinions, but she still doesn’t support anything beyond the 191-unit project.
The changes introduced Tuesday “don’t preserve the currently farmed areas,” she said. “I support 191, the preservation of the forest and the farms, and a community for families.”
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reader wrote on Sep 30, 2008 1:01 PM:
kkjp wrote on Sep 30, 2008 3:15 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Sep 30, 2008 6:12 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 30, 2008 9:21 PM:
Interesting. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 30, 2008 9:34 PM:
I read an article recently which indicated that homes far out in the country will someday be abandoned due to the high costs of energy. I suppose this makes little difference to Triad since they will build, make their profit and never look back at the future ghost town. "
HMcritic wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:26 AM:
While urbanizing Angwin will, of course, bring crime, the sheriff’s substation is justified right now. Under the leadership of noted educator/real estate spinster Osborn, PUC’s on-campus crime as reported by the California Post-Secondary Education Commission has increased 260% from 10 reported incidents in 2002 to 26 in 2006. This has occurred in spite of the fact that enrollment under Osborn has declined by 25%. Last year the Campus Chronicle reported that a large number of PUC’s dorm residents consumed alcohol. Although it is obvious that this involves the crime of underage drinking in a large scale, this has never, once, as far as I know, been reported to the authorities. Many have noted the potential for DUI. In fact, the Campus Chronicle article recounted a story of intoxicated students driving. We do not have to wait for PUC’s subdivision to be concerned about crime.
Vocal, you need to adjust your perceptions to reality. PUC is not what it was. There is plenty of justification for more law enforcement right now. "
Econut wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:24 AM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:57 AM:
As far as alcohol consumption goes, it has never been a secret that substantial numbers of students at PUC drink. PUC has a zero tolerance policy that we believe is best for society, but we do not control the behavior of students to the extent that some would like to think. We're pleased that secular society has a zero tolerance policy for underage drinking, because it is a serious matter. "
NoWayJose wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:43 AM:
You may be right. But what is PUC’s product? PUC’s message used to be centered on the Second Coming, vegetarian food and missionary adventures. Now the message has been reduced to a slick but preposterous real estate promotion, which it seems to have internalized as part of its theology and mission. In the eyes of many in the community, like Andrea Rahn, quoted above, it has cheapened its message and thoroughly discredited itself as both a school and a religious institution. So no Mr. Nut, PUC’s present product, fronting for a Seattle developer, would not seem more worthy than other products from Angwin. "
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:59 AM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM:
HMcritic wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:13 PM:
Of more concern is your cavalier riposte concerning the consumption of alcohol by underage collegians. I recall a time when PUC was a Seventh-day Adventist college and temperance was a given. Now it is just “we can’t control the students”? What about calling the cops?
When a ship is sinking the captain is blamed. The same goes with football coaches and presidents of colleges. If PUC's president is not receive the blame (and credit) for what has happened in his presidency who is? "
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:51 PM:
At the moment I do not have access to PUC's enrollment figures, so I cannot comment on your analysis.
PUC disciplines all students who are caught drinking. A breathalyzer test is given only when a student is suspected of drinking--we do not compulsively or randomly test students for alcohol or drug abuse. Students who are caught meet with a committee which reviews the evidence and students are allowed to have a faculty or staff member as an advocate. Students are given a 3-5 day suspension for the first offense, a suspension of one or more quarters for the second offense, and expulsion after the third offense. We believe in redemption.
If you can name a secondary or tertiary educational institution in which not one student has ever abused alcohol or drugs, please let us know. "
kkjp wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:59 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:01 PM:
A search of PUC's website revealed a document titled "WASC Proposal Appendices" with the following enrollment figures given as "Total Headcount Enrollment" on pp. 104-105: 1457 in 2002-2003, 1443 or 1453 (discrepancy in two tables) in 2003-2004, 1547 in 2004-2005, 1539 in 2005-2006, and 1396 in 2006-2007. For 2002-2003 I used the midpoint of 1448 for the statistical analysis. These figures, by the way, differ dramatically from those posted above by HMcritic.
Unfortunately there are only five years of data, but the correlation coefficient of -0.08 is close to zero and the slope of the regression line does not differ significantly from zero (P = 0.90).
Incidentally, the correlation coefficient for the crime statistics is 0.03, which is very close to zero. "
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:06 PM:
HMcritic wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:19 PM:
I do not think we disagree. Reader noted that PUC wants to build a sheriff’s substation. I am simply suggesting we should not delay in doing so as we could employ one right now. That’s all. So have a good night. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:58 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:56 AM:
18 in year 1 (2001)
11 in year 2 (2002)
10 in year 3 (2003)
10 in year 4 (2004)
15 in year 5 (2005)
16 in year 6 (2006)
The Pearson correlation coefficient (r) is 0.03 with a P of 0.95, which means that the probability that there is no association between the year and number of crimes is 95%.
When the dependent variable (crimes) is regressed on the independent variable (year), R squared = 0.001, F = 0.00 and P = 0.95, which means that the probability that the slope of the regression line is equal to zero--in other words, that there is no trend in the data--is 95%.
Based on this analysis, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR AN INCREASE IN CRIME! "
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:04 AM:
18 / 1600 = 0.0113 for year 1
11 / 1457 = 0.0075 for year 2
10 / 1448 = 0.0069 for year 3
10 / 1547 = 0.0065 for year 4
15 / 1539 = 0.0097 for year 5
16 / 1396 = 0.0115 for year 6
The Pearson correlation coefficient is 0.17 with a probability of no association between year and the crime rate being 74%.
When the dependent variable (crime rate) is regressed on the independent variable (year), R squared = 0.03, F = 0.12, and P = 0.74, which means that the probability that the slope of the regression line--in other words, the probability that there is no trend in the data--is 74%.
Again, based on this analysis, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE PER CAPITA CRIME RATE IS INCREASING AT PUC! "
Econut wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:22 AM:
By the way, nuts are good for your health. "
NoWayJose wrote on Oct 5, 2008 1:56 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:20 AM:
HMcritic wrote on Oct 7, 2008 10:58 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:08 AM:
Criminal Offenses
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
On Campus - Totals
Murder / Non-Negligent Manslaughter 0 0 0 0 0 0
Negligent Manslaughter 0 0 0 0 0 0
Aggravated Assault 0 1 0 1 1 0
Sex Offenses - Forcible 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sex Offenses - Non-forcible 0 0 0 0 0 0
Arson 0 0 0 0 1 0
Robbery 0 0 0 0 0 0
Burglary 16 8 9 8 13 16
Motor Vehicle Theft 2 2 1 1 0 0
On Campus - Residence Halls (Numbers included in totals above.)
Murder / Non-Negligent Manslaughter 0 0 0 0 0 0
Negligent Manslaughter 0 0 0 0 0 0
Aggravated Assault 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sex Offenses - Forcible 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sex Offenses - Non-forcible 0 0 0 0 0 0
Arson 0 0 0 0 0 0
Robbery 0 0 0 0 0 0
Burglary 3 1 0 4 11 10
Motor Vehicle Theft 0 0 0 0 0 0 "
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:11 AM:
HMcritic wrote on Oct 8, 2008 10:43 AM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:33 AM:
HMcritic wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:59 PM:
PUC Prof wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:58 AM: