Recession and the lessons of history
By Jim Lydecker
“If we do not remember history, then we are destined to repeat it.”
Everyone has heard this oft-repeated quote and it fits in perfectly with today’s state of the economy and the choice of our next president.
Let me explain.
Recently I’ve finished a book by Stephen Duncombe and Andrew Mattson (“The Bobbed Hair bandit”) about the 1920s from the post-war recession in 1920 to the 1929 collapse. Remembering we had a severe recession beginning in 1990 that began to turn around in 1993, you can interchange the ‘20s with ‘90s below:
“By the end of 1923, things were looking a bit better in the working-class neighborhood areas. Production increased which meant more jobs and products to spend wages on.
Outstripping the advances of workers’ wages was the striking increase in their material aspirations. Americans were buying into ‘the good life.’ The creation of this market was helped by the expansion of easy credit allowing the working class to live like the middle class, the middle class to ape the upper, and the upper class to inhabit the stratosphere.”
Duncombe and Mattson then say:
“‘Just Charge It!’ advised advertisements as credit was available for the smallest to largest consumer items … ‘Has our country gone installment mad?’ wondered the New York Herald in 1924, arguing that ‘buying on credit has gripped every class in proportion to income.’ With easy credit, American consumers, corporations and financial institutions were building fantastic lives on mountains of debt.”
Of course, we know what happened as the Roaring Twenties became the Great Depression. The ease for people to live beyond their means with easy credit was a significant cause.
Sound familiar?
FDR swept into office with a mandate. He called for change and beat Herbert Hoover who represented more of the same. In this sense 1932 was a blueprint for 2008. The biggest issue in both elections was the economy.
In the ‘20s, both the stock markets and finance industries were unregulated. This is the reason most economists attribute to the collapse. In his first cabinet meeting, Roosevelt spoke of placing regulations on the very businesses that ran amok under greed without control. Such regulatory agencies as Securities and Exchange Commission were born, which made FDR the scourge of businesses, banks and corporations.
However, since Reagan those very regulations put in place to prevent another depression have been under assault and removed from one administration to the next. “Let the buyer/consumer beware!” has been the mantra as markets have been allowed to police themselves. This was like getting rid of the watchdog and allowing the foxes into the hen house.
Another similarity from then is the huge disparity of wealth. The only time more wealth was concentrated in the hands of the upper class as it was during the ‘20s has been from 1996 on. We know what happened in the 20s with the massive transference of wealth to the upper class. The middle class was wiped out and America walked off an economic cliff.
History tells us how we got back on track.
FDR insisted, was getting money back into the hands of the middle class by transferring it from the upper class. This was done through taxes that ran as high as 90 percent on those who made more than $1.5 million annually. The result of this made FDR the enemy of the Mellons, Carnegies, Rockefellers and other old-wealth families who felt this taxation was nothing more than the theft of their money.
And this brings us back to the presidential election of 2008.
Barack Obama made it an issue to bring back the regulatory agencies and the necessary regulations that were removed over the past 28 years. Obama will put teeth back in the watchdog. And while Obama campaigned promising to redistribute the wealth, John McCain promised to “not be that guy who is going to spread the wealth around.” My answer to McCain was always, who do you want to be? The guy who takes the remaining 20 percent controlled by the lower 90 percent of the population and transfers it to the upper 10 percent who now control 80 percent of the nation’s wealth? Do you want be the guy who continues to believe in trickle-down economics, a theory that most proponents now reject? The theory was first used in the ‘20s under Hoover and raised its head again under Reagan.
Our nation has always had a progressive tax structure and the rich need to pay more to help level the playing field. There are those who say the rich already pay over 50 percent of the taxes.
They should: They own much more than that of the nation’s wealth.
The wealthy will pay more taxes under Obama. This is definitely not the change they hoped for.
What no one hopes for, however, is history to give us another Great Depression.
(Lydecker lives in Napa.)
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telebender wrote on Dec 1, 2008 8:22 AM:
spurred massive production. If we're repeating history, get ready for WWIII. If we want to avoid that, support public works/infrastructure/health care/education spending...nah, let's just kill a bunch of furriners "
manxkat wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:05 AM:
— Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense, Scribner's, 1905, p. 284.
The body of your letter fails to state that Bill Clinton, a Democrat president removed the Glass Stegall act which contained major stock market regulation.
And, you end your letter with an error. President Elect Obama has stated that he is not going to drop the Bush tax cuts prematurely.
But I am happy that you read a book. "
Ruff Limblog wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:40 AM:
The economy can be compared to a casino where the government drags the pot. The government needs to make sure the little players don't get wiped out by the big players or the casino is out of business.
The best way to do that is by funneling some chips to the little players so their families don't go hungry and homeless.
I've been in countries that made the poor beg on the streets.
I did not want to live there even when I was rich by their standards, and could have had a penthouse, limos, yacht, wine, women and song.
~Ruff "
Ruff Limblog wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:42 AM:
When you look at WWII production the government was paying people to make stuff.
It doesn't necessarily have to be war stuff.
~Ruff "
Sickothis wrote on Dec 1, 2008 11:57 AM:
So the Republican led legislature (which of course controls the money and the agenda) gave up enough to get the Democrats to agree, and created a veto proof bill. "
manxkat wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:15 PM:
“You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage-payer. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatreds. You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.”
--- William J. H. Boetcker, 1916 (often attributed to Lincoln) "
Kevin Eggers wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:34 PM:
The bailout of Wall Street is very similar to what happened during the Great Depression. You should read Senator Louis T. McFadden’s, May 23, 1933, twenty-five minute tirade against the Fed and government, and compare it with their actions today.
I just heard an interview with Forbes on the Lou Dobbs show, where Forbes stated that Secretary of Treasury Paulson is the worst in modern history, where almost every one of his actions makes no sense. With the bailout vote, didn’t Congress grant Paulson arbitrary control of our money, in this bipartisan monetary raping of America?
F.A. Hayek, Nobel Laureate in economic science, wrote “Road to Serfdom” in the early 1940s, which explained the fallacies of socialism and warned about the central planning that Britain and the United States were moving toward—in the United States, thanks in a large part to Roosevelt’s New Deal programs. Henry Hazlitt’s “Economics in One Lesson”, which Hayek said “I know of no other modern book from which the intelligent layman can learn so much about the basic truths of economics in so short a time”, explains the fallacies of the modern time central planners, and how most of the economics we’re taught in school, such as John Maynard Keynes “General Theory”, is nonsense. "
John Richards wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:44 PM:
Ruff Limblog wrote on Dec 1, 2008 1:24 PM:
If the 'conservatives' don't like Obama's tax policies then let's go back to Eisenhower Republican tax policies!
REALLY soak the rich unless they are investing in job producing enterprises here in the good old USA! Make the profits on stock transfers taxable as well as increase the 'hold time'.
Let's do that 90% tax rate on millionaires like good Republicans used to do back in the 1950s!
I get 'vexed' when mumbledepegs start wanting 1950s morality from poor people and are OK with Bushite morality from the rich and stand for the right of billionaires to get corporate welfare and tax cuts while the poor don't even get government cheese anymore.
Elections have consequences as the Bushites so proudly ran the country into the ground!
How about some GOOD consequences for a 'Change We Can Believe In'?
Any more Bull-Goose Loony LIBRUL traitors for economic prosperity?
~Ruff "
glenroy wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:22 PM:
Except for a few…. .the difference between a rich Republican and those rich Democrats in congress is the former earned theirs in the private sector before they were elected to office and the Democrats while in office…..Reid, Clintons, Murtha, Obama, Frank, Rangel…..just to name a few. There are laws designed to prevent this but when Democrats control the federal government laws only applies to others.
By far the largest individual donators are Democrats… Soros who is a convicted felon and wanted by the French for insider trading and specializes in making money by ruining economies probably spent 50 to 100 million minimum helping Obama…then you have the Hollywood Crowd…..the Freddie and Fannie crooks….owner of Progressive Insurance and the individual Trial Lawyers etc…you know those that prey on the working class….for even dollar donated by special interest to Republicans, Democrats received at least 2.…bought and sold and they’re all Democrats.
You have to be living in cave in this day in age to fall for the old Republicans are for the rich and the Democrats for the working class…..hasn’t been that way in decades. "
outahere wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:40 PM:
Dwayne wrote on Dec 1, 2008 5:33 PM:
" Just charge it... easy credit... live beyond your means. Greed at the top, bottom and middle of the food chain and lots of people dumb enough to fall for it. "
That's exactly the way the government operates... They set the standard... "
alucawanza wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:03 PM:
jonb3333 wrote on Dec 2, 2008 5:22 PM:
I can't live the American dream, but an illegal immigrant can...
Only here because the wealthy are making billions $$$ by not paying taxes and worker comp/ benefits, etc...
This is why we are in a depression, because we have a world full of greedy, traitors, killing our country!
There are no rules for the wealthy or illegal immigrants, soon there will be non for all of us. It's coming!@!@! "
jonb3333 wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:36 PM:
outahere wrote on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM: