Angwin debate and more McMansions
By MICHAEL HALEY
October 31st, 2009
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The long awaited meeting where Mark Luce returned to cast his vote on the fate of the PUC eco-village turned in a new direction yesterday with Luce's compromise plan. Saddled by a map displayed for the public that was impossible to read, Luce laid out his plan. With PD and RR's and PI's flying, the often lively and even angry discourse amongst the Supervisors was difficult to follow.
In the end it appears the plan -- with three yes votes and two no -- is to change much of the urban residential zone to an institutional development only zone (PI). The land where the proposed eco-village is to be built if approved remains in a developable zone for now, but if the project gets tanked in the planning process then that land reverts to institutional only.
I read that PUC was happy with this because it still allows them to go forward with the eco-village ... but if I were them I would watch out. I believe the intention is to tank the eco-village in planning now, then they will be stuck with all institutional property which would preclude doing anything with their land for a profit.
Both Diane Dillon and Bill Dodd appeared pretty angry at the end of the meeting.
Dillon is angry because she doesn't even want to allow institutional zoning, but wants to shut down all development altogether.
Dodd was angry because he feels like Luce's plan is a "bait and switch,” pretend to offer them a shot at the eco-village, shut it down and in the meantime they have agreed to also give up all the other property they own to development and end up with nothing.
My mind turns to where are we going with all this? What is the future of Napa if this continual refusal to allow any housing development or other development continues?
After a break, the room cleared and only a few hard cores like myself and Carol Kunze of the Sierra Club were left. Yet a vitally important second piece of land use decision making occurred, a large chunk of property in Pope Valley where the owner hoped to develop some housing, about 100 homes.
The planning commission had recommended downzoning the parcel to rural residential (RR), meaning that one house per 10 acres could be built, meaning only 14 homes. All but Dodd weighed in and said they favored just stripping the property owner of any development rights at all, and returning the land to agriculture. It was noted that it was not suitable for grapes, but Keith Caldwell said they could do cattle grazing such that there was still some agricultural use left.
Combine this with the decision on Lake Luciana, throw in the strong opposition to Napa Pipe, and where we are going is to stop all development in the unincorporated county, even on land that is not suitable for grape growing and that is now zoned for other uses. It appears that many if not most people want this.
Aside from the obvious, destroying the value of the property for the person who owns it and robbing them of a lot of money, what are the consequences for the county and the future of Napa? Where is the vision?
It seems to me that where this leads no one knows for sure, but one thing is that the unincorporated county will only have McMansions and more wineries/vineyards, as that is all that is allowed. There will be more pressure then to develop both, and that is a very unbalanced plan.
Since the cities are mostly built out, property values are going to spiral upward again with the lack of housing, even if we build some token affordable apartment buildings here and there. Forget about your children living here, we are well on our way to a wealthy retirement community already, and that pattern will continue to strengthen.
Most of the people arguing for ending development don't care about what happens to the individual property owners, so it is not an issue for them that someone could lose some money or an investment. But there is a psychological damage that is done to people as well, it is not just all about the money.
And the justification for taking people's property rights away is that the needs of the larger community take precedence. There is no doubt that sometimes that is true, but look at what needs we are saying take precedence here. The need to build McMansions and more vineyards? Is that the pressing need, or is it more a need to build housing where people who work here can live and get traffic off the road?
I have been impressed recently with the city of Napa's efforts to create a vision for itself, but there is a clear lack of vision with the County and it is not integrated with Napa's plans. What happened to the growth summit we were supposed to have? Where are we going?
Michael Haley is president of the Napa County Taxpayers Alliance. He writes on local, state and national issues. He can be reached at napaeagle@hughes.net.
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krusty wrote on Feb 25, 2009 5:18 PM:
But shouldn't that make Napa Pipe an obvious choice for development? It's already a lost open space. What we would gain there becomes much better than what we currently have at that property.
I personally like the idea of mixed use buildings that are being built or have been planned for the downtown area. But we also have to realize that all of our problems won't be solved there. I think we can allow development of the county without destroying the open land we all value so much and that makes this valley what it is. "
delphi wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:00 PM:
napablogger wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:21 PM:
It is not like we are talking about huge 1000 condo developments here. The development in Angwin is small in my view. It won't change Angwin a whole lot in terms of size, but it will make it a more livable place.
My idea would be to spread it around a little and develop smaller less impactful areas to housing. Angwin is perfect in that regard.
Krusty you are right, we are going to need Napa Pipe now more than ever, but I expect a huge fight from the same people and so far they seem to be winning every battle. "
emu wrote on Feb 26, 2009 8:15 AM:
napablogger wrote on Feb 26, 2009 9:59 AM:
But there are other considerations in a community.
The 191 units are undoable, this has been stated so many times but no one is listening, apparently. Yes, it has more affordable but that is why it cannot be done. And the 191 units would have more impact than the current other proposal. "
Ruff Limblog wrote on Feb 26, 2009 10:52 AM:
Are you really talking about another variance?
If so, how does keeping it the same take anything away from the owner?
Napa is far from built-out and there is already an oversupply of houses with prices dropping.
Why all the huff 'n puff?
How about a 'No Growth in the AG Zone' summit, eh?
~Ruff "
Ruff Limblog wrote on Feb 26, 2009 11:00 AM:
Sometimes what is left out is very informative.
What's not 'doable' seems to be what developers can't make a bundle on at the expense of the rest of us.
~Ruff "
Econut wrote on Feb 26, 2009 12:27 PM:
If you don't want any neighbors on a particular parcel of land you should buy it for yourself. If it's somebody else's property you have no inherent right to demand that it cannot be developed for any purpose other than "open space."
One of these days somebody is going to sue the county big time. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 PM:
Government will end out paying for all of the failing infrastructure such as the sewage disposal plant, which in the Triad Master Plan, is located in a vulnerable location right next to a creek feeding Lake Hennessey. Ten years down the road, the sewage pond will be inspected and something will undoubtedly be wrong, as it now is. Responsibility will be passed onto county taxpayers because Angwin residents will fight tooth and nail, against any type of imposed "special district".
So, NB, as a taxpayer watchdog, shouldn't you be concerned about situations which increase costs to county taxpayers? Or did you become so entangled in the politics of "property rights", using PUC/Triad as the poster boy of what can be accomplished if big temper tantrums using "religious rights" are tossed into the faces of our representatives, that you failed to follow the "hidden trail of costs" far enough down the path to recognize their impact on taxpayers?
And you obviously don't care about our environment so no need arguing that point. "
napablogger wrote on Feb 26, 2009 4:01 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Feb 26, 2009 5:15 PM:
napablogger wrote on Feb 26, 2009 7:51 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Feb 26, 2009 10:22 PM:
The flat areas of Angwin are, indeed, ag lands. For that matter, even our hillsides are ag. Ever heard of CATE winery? The town of Angwin is surrounded by mountains. Throughout geological history, topsoil has eroded from hillsides and collected in the Angwin basin. The topsoil is high quality. Dig down too far and you will run into tufa. But our soils are of high enough quality to grow garbanzos. You may consider that insignificant today, but if we ever become dependent on locally grown protein foods due to prohibitively high transportation costs, trust me, we will be the happiest campers on earth. We were smarter than everyone else in that we preserved our ag lands. Everyone else is covering them with asphalt and concrete. If you have children, you might better understand where I'm coming from.
If the generation of my children must double up inside of one home, so be it. they will survive. But they sure can't survive without food and quality water. They're going to have a much tougher time if all of our ag lands are taken out of service. "
Jasper wrote on Feb 26, 2009 11:54 PM:
You really do not have it right on several opinions.
First, the so-called Eco-Village represents a 43% increase in households in Angwin. This is small in your view. Hello?
Your opinion that the 191 units are not doable is debatable. Perhaps the 60% affordable could be reduced to 50% and that is apparently doable. ABAG recommends 50% and the Marin Co. General Plan requires that 50% of new housing be affordable.
The Triad project would produce only 15% affordables, and I predict the affordability advocates would be suing the County the next morning if it approved that project.
Our housing needs really are for more affordables. PUC could develop the 191 because they own the land and would not have to shell out thousands of dollars to purchase it as would another developer. So they are doable.
Think about it. "
angwindeac wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:04 AM:
For over 100 years the SDA's have been able to do anything that they feel is appropriate to Angwin in most cases the land stewardship has been amazing thank you PUC and SDA's. In this case the administration is greedily and in a very short sighted way trying to throw an entire community under the development bus. The adminstration has done little to develop business plans to increase enrollment and are relying on ecologically aware studnts to flock to this "new" Angwin/PUC which is nuts. Very few college kids take this into account. Also, the higher ups at PUC all have new housing. Like many businesses the ceo's are living large and the faculty(workers) can't afford go live here. Maybe you should look into that problem rather than look at property rights issues. Mismanagement is a much bigger problem than a housing development. "
PUC Prof wrote on Mar 2, 2009 10:50 AM: