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frenchtoast wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:57 AM:
Paddy wrote on Sep 9, 2009 8:33 AM:
Froggie1559 wrote on Sep 9, 2009 8:58 AM:
random name here wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM:
How about "Licensed Driver Checkpoint"? Or "Completely Legal Driver Checkpoint"? Or "Outstanding Warrant Checkpoint"?
I guess there's no state funding for any of those. They might be able to still get funding with "DUI Checkpoint (wink-wink)". "
yerbotherinme wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 AM:
KelzMom wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM:
bgraham wrote on Sep 9, 2009 11:14 AM:
bgraham wrote on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 AM:
Froggie1559 wrote on Sep 9, 2009 11:54 AM:
newshound wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:08 PM:
skeptic wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:43 PM:
even in a program that is usually 99% innefficient , hasseling mainly innocent people , when it comes to saving a life, the sky is the limit when it comes to spending. when this topic comes up we ignore the fact that the state is bankrupt and pretend we have infinite funds.
instead of thinking how much this costs the taxpayer in wasted time and police effort , instead of thinking about probable cause and your contitutional rights , when this topic comes up, just tell yourself how much safer you feel when the police say "your identity card please".
the phrase reminds one of old movies about ww2 and the concept in certain countries that order and safety were more important than civil rights.
one wonders how many more drunks would have been caught if each individual officer were told to drive around napa and look for weaving drivers and cell phone users, who now kill even more than the drunks .
oh well, "if it only saves 1 life", what do if we care if another 8 or ten are lost in the process ? "
realitybites wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:54 PM:
random name here wrote on Sep 9, 2009 1:12 PM:
There are far more accidents caused by fully licensed and insured drivers. That person would have still hit your car and wrecked your back even if they had a license in their pocket. Having a license doesn't automatically make you a good driver. The most common reason a driver loses their license is because of unpaid fines or failures to appear in court. Just because someone paid all their fines or made all court appearances doesn't make them a good driver, just a responsible driver.
If the DMV suspended licenses of all the poor drivers who disregard driving laws then half the drivers on the road would be unlicensed. "
crooked6pence wrote on Sep 9, 2009 2:40 PM:
While I don't agree with drunk driving, setting up checkpoints reminds me of where I grew up. Only you wouldn't want to be caught turning around before a checkpoint there, because it wouldn't have been uncommon for them to open fire on your vehicle with live ammo.
Something to think about next time you are sitting in a "checkpoint."
Enjoy your freedom and defend it, don't take it for granted like so many of you do. "
post-it wrote on Sep 9, 2009 3:41 PM:
These checkpoints are not legal in some states. Why isn't this funding cut with all the budget cutbacks? I guess because it is a revenue generator? "
amazed wrote on Sep 9, 2009 3:44 PM:
ganeece wrote on Sep 9, 2009 4:57 PM:
Officers don't need probable cause to ask for you license... they need probable cause to conduct a search or to pull you over. AND it is not only a law to have and carry your license with you but you are also REQUIRED to have insurance. If you don't have insurance or a license, your car gets impounded simple as that. Maybe these people would know that if they went through driver's eduaction and took the necessary driver's test at the DMV. Who says these people just get to slide through the cracks? If I have to pay for insurance every month, so should every other motorist on the road!
Why are people so sue happy lately anyways? Give me a break! These people were breaking the law plain and simple! "
skeptic wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:56 PM:
to those who have , "uninsured motorist" insurance, be advised that it only applies when you can track the person down who caused the wreck and prove they have no insurance. it doesn't cover hit and run.
i can uderstand your desire to get unlicensed drivers off the road, given your experience, but won't you agree that , when we get 0% drunk drivers, that this is not really a d.u.i. checkpoint, but an identiy card check ? "
oldtownnapa wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:23 PM:
hummingbird wrote on Sep 11, 2009 5:14 PM:
John Richards wrote on Sep 13, 2009 8:41 PM:
The problem with that is that the Supreme Court has not authorized checkpoints for identity card checks except at the US borders. So, as the DUI violators caught at checkpoints falls much below the Court target of at least 1%, these "DUI" checkpoints are in danger of being ruled unconstitutional. "