What’s being billed by organizers as a “Tea Party Super Rally” is headed to Napa later this month, and event organizers say a few White House hopefuls have already committed to appear.

The event — a kickoff rally for the nationwide Tea Party Express tour — is set to take place on Aug. 27, and has already generated RSVPs from a few GOP presidential candidates, said Pam Silleman, head of the Napa Tea Party.

Silleman wasn’t willing to reveal which candidates were making plans to attend the rally, saying it was up to the candidates themselves to announce whether they would be attending.

Tea party luminaries such as Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain would likely be among those most willing to commit to the Napa rally, although inquiries to their respective campaigns were not immediately returned.

Calls to Sal Russo, a GOP consultant and co-founder of Tea Party Express, were also not returned Wednesday.

While the names of the candidates will remain a mystery for now, Silleman was willing to report that the logistical aspects of the rally had largely fallen into place.

“It seems like it’s going to be quite a big rally,” she said. “It’ll be something Napa’s never seen before.”

Silleman previously said that attendance at the event could be measured in the tens of thousands.

Not everyone gathering in Napa that Saturday will do so to support the tea party movement. Members of the local Green Party have already announced plans for a counter rally that day.

According to Napa County Green Party spokesman Alex Shantz, the local chapter will be hosting what they are calling a “green tea party” at Veterans Memorial Park to protest the tea party’s presence in Napa.

“The purpose of this rally is to show our opposition to the tea party's far right-wing agenda while affirming positive Green Party values, such as grassroots democracy, social justice, respect for diversity, nonviolence, community-based economics and ecological wisdom,” Shantz said in a statement.

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Joanne

[quote]kevin said: "LOL.If it's in a NY Times editorial, it MUST be true..."[/quote]

And we all know how careful you are with the truth, Kevin...

Fact is: those characteristics came straight from the Tea Partiers own mouths."Beginning in 2006 we interviewed a representative sample of 3,000 Americans as part of our continuing research into national political attitudes, and we returned to interview many of the same people again this summer. As a result, we can look at what people told us, long before there was a Tea Party, to predict who would become a Tea Party supporter five years later. We can also account for multiple influences simultaneously — isolating the impact of one factor while holding others constant." source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

kevin
kevin

LOL.

If it's in a NY Times editorial, it MUST be true...

Joanne

Apparently, it's not dominantly about FISCAL responsibility. Rather, "next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being a Tea Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion play a prominent role in politics. And Tea Partiers continue to hold these views: they seek “deeply religious” elected officials, approve of religious leaders’ engaging in politics and want religion brought into political debates. The Tea Party’s generals may say their overriding concern is a smaller government, but not their rank and file, who are more concerned about putting God in government." source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

Joanne

[quote]Raven said: "you apparently don’t realize the Napa Tea Party is funded my more than a few prominent local Democrats, moderate Democrats.such as?"[/quote]

No matter how many times you ask this question, Raven, it seems you never get an answer.

Could it be that there are actually LESS THAN A FEW prominent local Democrats that are funding the Napa Tea Party?

Jus' sayin', as they say...

Joanne

"...in fact the Tea Party is increasingly swimming against the tide of public opinion: among most Americans, even before the furor over the debt limit, its brand was becoming toxic. To embrace the Tea Party carries great political risk for Republicans, but perhaps not for the reason you might think. Polls show that disapproval of the Tea Party is climbing. In April 2010, a NYT/CBS News survey found that 18% of Americans had an unfavorable opinion of it, 21% had a favorable opinion and 46% had not heard enough. Now, 14 mos later, Tea Party supporters have slipped to 20%, while their opponents have more than doubled, to 40%...So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do [and] they were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006..." source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

Joanne

[quote]kevin said: "First of all, ghost, the City of Napa is not "hosting" the Tea Party rally. It is being held at the fairgrounds which is technically, State property.Second, you want expenses? Try to deny us our First Amendment Rights and THEN you will have some SERIOUS legal expenses! Third, why are you expecting violent confrontation? The Tea Party has had more peaceful activism in the past two years than the local Libs have generated in the past 20 years. Unless the Dems HIRE the "brown shirt" Carpenters Union to create some disturbance (as they did during Clinton's 2010 visit), I fully expect everyone to get along just fine. It will be a GOOD THING to expose staid, little Napa to a new perspective of how government should really work! "[/quote]

The Dems did no such thing, Kevin. Why would you publish a lie like that? Just to score some kind of political point? Well, now we all know just how little credibility all of your other claims ought be given...

Raven
Raven

and who are those major candidates we are expecting... haven't heard any announcements yet and the event is what...little more than 10 days away?

dallen

Watch for my upcoming Letter to the Editor and I will explain what the Tea Party Express is and is not! Dennis E. Allen, North Fairfield

alucawanza

pam said:
The Tea Party is all about FISCAL issues

But...your candidates aren't. Your current office holders aren't.
Someone please explain to Michelle Bachmann that she can't repeal laws as a president. It isn't in the job description (Constitution).

Raven
Raven

you apparently don’t realize the Napa Tea Party is funded my more than a few prominent local Democrats, moderate Democrats.

such as?

glenroy
glenroy

….of course ghost you apparently don’t realize the Napa Tea Party is funded my more than a few prominent local Democrats, moderate Democrats. Though not a member the Tea Party has endorsed both parties in the past....I'd guess that won't change...

There is no excuse for liberals corrupting government to their advantage, there is no excuse for allowing it to continue…this state has over 13,000 funded agencies, the overwhelming majority are nothing more than liberal career employement agencies that provide no benefit for those who are stuck paying for these unnecessary tax payer funded jobs.

Obama is a byproduct of this corruption, as is Pelosi and those who support her.

kevin
kevin

First of all, ghost, the City of Napa is not "hosting" the Tea Party rally. It is being held at the fairgrounds which is technically, State property.

Second, you want expenses? Try to deny us our First Amendment Rights and THEN you will have some SERIOUS legal expenses!

Third, why are you expecting violent confrontation? The Tea Party has had more peaceful activism in the past two years than the local Libs have generated in the past 20 years. Unless the Dems HIRE the "brown shirt" Carpenters Union to create some disturbance (as they did during Clinton's 2010 visit), I fully expect everyone to get along just fine.

It will be a GOOD THING to expose staid, little Napa to a new perspective of how government should really work!

ghostgrove

You know what's not fiscally conservative? The city of Napa hosting this event. I'm pretty sure hosting a far right organizations kick off rally this deep in liberal Northern California is going to lead to untold protests for which Napa tax payers will have to foot the bill. Overtime, extra police presence, etc are sure to create a nice hefty bill, that I'm sure the City is in no way ready to deal with. I'd like to introduce everyone to a little word called UNREST. Shouldn't this event be in Kern County or somewhere where most people agree with the sentiment? And how is the PD planning on dealing with the high tempers this event is sure to stimulate.

livinggoodinnapa

@ pam s, are you really trying to blame the mess america is in on President Obama???? are you nuts??? g w bush got us into this mess, he started the war, he has killed innocent poeple around the world because of the war... there is no way possible that President Obama had anything to do with this mess... you really need to educate yourself and stop listening to the lies that fox news tell you...

pamsilleman

[quote]wyngyrl said: "More questions: does the Tea Party Express own these buses or are they rented? Do they employ events organizers or hire an outside firm? Who produces the banners & signs? Who develops the main "message" of the promotional materials? Does the TPEX have its own employees, and if so, is it a registered CA business? Do the employees earn overtime and get benefits? Are the bus riders employees or just ordinary TP members? Who pays the bills and where is the revenue source? None of the above info is available on their website. Anyone have the answers? "[/quote]

Do you know ANY business that lists the answers to those questions on their website? You really should have used your 'vetting' skills on the current occupant of the White House. Someone should have anyway. I suggest you come to the rally and see the truth for yourself.

orchid lady

I agree with Kevin. However, I would like to see people be politer to each other as a society.

wyngyrl

Kevin, because a)mental illness is not always easy to recognize in time (think Norway)b)it's illegal to lock up someone unless there is documented proof that they are a danger to themselves or others and c) it's cheaper, faster, and easier to ask the marketing/pr gurus to rephrase the objective. Substituting less provocative wording is not the same as censorship. Except in your world. In which case, some people might think you should be locked up!

kevin
kevin

Instead of censoring our language, why don't we try locking up crazy people BEFORE they go on killing sprees, wyngyrl?

wyngyrl

Just one more, than I'll go do something productive. After what happened in AZ, using the word "Target" to designate legislators the TP would like to see defeated in 2012 seems a bit unwise. Perhaps the website could be updated with another word - one not likely to inspire another mentally ill gun owner?

pamsilleman

I gotta run, but for your 'tax' questions....sorry, I only have my opinion and the history of what has worked in the past to base it on.
Obviously whatever we are doing here in Ca (& in Washington) is not working. We do get some new jobs, (Silicon Valley) but the number of folks needing work doesn't come close the the numbers of jobs being made here.
That is why SF and the gang from Sacramento went to Texas for lessons. SF came home with a new attitude, offering reduced business tax to keep businesses in their city.
Facts are facts, and folks you have to admit, whatever we have been doing, just ain't working. We need a new path and a new attitude. We need pride in our country again, I want a leader, not a lecturer. The world is a better place when the USA is stable, we are NOT stable now, and well; the lack of US leadership is painfully showing around the globe.

wyngyrl

More questions: does the Tea Party Express own these buses or are they rented? Do they employ events organizers or hire an outside firm? Who produces the banners & signs? Who develops the main "message" of the promotional materials? Does the TPEX have its own employees, and if so, is it a registered CA business? Do the employees earn overtime and get benefits? Are the bus riders employees or just ordinary TP members? Who pays the bills and where is the revenue source? None of the above info is available on their website. Anyone have the answers?

pamsilleman

to wyngyrl said on: August 13, 2011, 10:17 am
I don't understand. What's the purpose of driving gas guzzling buses across the US, stopping in areas which are already primarily quite conservative? Is it a promotional tour? Who is on the buses? THE TEA PARTY EXPRESS SPEAKERS AND SINGERS WITH GUEST POLITICIANS AND CELEBS ETC. Who pays for the gas, meals, motels,etc.etc.etc. ALL DONATIONS TO THE PAC. Is it just a fun road trip for aging, angry boomers? NO, IT IS HARD WORK AND EXHAUSTING. Or is to provide jobs for the bus drivers.WELL THERE IS A GOOD POINT. Sorry to be sarcastic, but I really really just don't get it. THEY GO TO AREAS IN 'NEED' LIKE WHAT THEY JUST DID AND ARE STILL DOING IN WISCONSIN. THEY HELPED THE 'SCOTT' HEARD AROUND THE WORLD, REMEMBER WHEN KENNEDY'S OLD SEAT WAS FILLED BY A REPUBLICAN? THAT STUFF

Read more: http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/tea-party-express-ready-to-roll/article_c804319e-c3e5-11e0-b714-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments#ixzz1UvqExHlV

wyngyrl

I don't understand. What's the purpose of driving gas guzzling buses across the US, stopping in areas which are already primarily quite conservative? Is it a promotional tour? Who is on the buses? Who pays for the gas, meals, motels,etc.etc.etc. Is it just a fun road trip for aging, angry boomers? Or is to provide jobs for the bus drivers. Sorry to be sarcastic, but I really really just don't get it.

BananaMan

[quote]Raven said: "yep...growing in popularity alrighty...from AP" 31 percent of respondents said they have a favorable view (of the Tea Party). That's down from 37 percent in mid-July, and the lowest level since the CNN poll began asking the question in January 2010.Fifty-one percent of Americans said their view of the tea party is unfavorable, the most ever and the first time a majority of Americans have held that view in the survey. The poll was taken last weekend, Aug. 5 to Aug. 7.http://news.yahoo.com/tea-party-fortunes-fading-even-star-michele-bachmann-225000526.html"[/quote]

Even the devil can quote scripture to suit his needs. Classic political tactic to (and classic confirmation bias) for someone to find a poll that reflects their views and ignores the rest. Gimme a minute and I'll find a poll that says the Tea Party is the most hated in the world and another that says members of the KKK support the Tea Party 6 out of 10 Grand Dragons.

Raven
Raven

yep...growing in popularity alrighty...

from AP

" 31 percent of respondents said they have a favorable view (of the Tea Party). That's down from 37 percent in mid-July, and the lowest level since the CNN poll began asking the question in January 2010.
Fifty-one percent of Americans said their view of the tea party is unfavorable, the most ever and the first time a majority of Americans have held that view in the survey. The poll was taken last weekend, Aug. 5 to Aug. 7.
http://news.yahoo.com/tea-party-fortunes-fading-even-star-michele-bachmann-225000526.html

post-it

If hoops and regulation are killing CA business, why is it one of the biggest states for start-ups and venture capital? Businesses still START here. You are correct they do move, but mainly becasue other states utilize taxpayer subsidies to poach businesses. The winners when business move are the owners, not the workers. Trading 100 CA jobs for 100 TX jobs does not help the USA - it is just trading jobs, usually for lower wages and lower income tax revenue. The prices remain the same, only the profit increases. When Texas or North Carolina or any other state offers feebies such as defered property taxes or building infrastructure, they are asking their taxpayers to subsidize a coporprations profit margin. That is privatized profits with socialized costs.

post-it

Pam, the simplest way to increase revenue is twofold - get more taxpayers with more jobs, and to have more higher wage jobs. As a net, the US treasury would collect more dollars if the same payroll dollars were distributed downward towards workers rather than being concentrated at the top. I'll support the Tea party when you picket corporate boards and their policies which hurt working Americans, while disproportionately rewarding those at the top. You are right to be angry, I just think it is pointed at the wrong target.

Raven
Raven

"less fair for those who DO the hiring of folks"

pam, where is all that hiring from the last round of tax cuts? and as BHF said, taxes are the lowest they have been in over a half century.....

pamsilleman

Bauhausfan: Hi again..........I 'sort of' agree with you...........we do need to bring in more tax revenue. But, I believe we need to do that by having more TAX PAYERS, getting folks off the 'taker' end and getting them on the taxpayer end. I want to see our tax income raise by making more tax payers, NOT by taxing the less than 50% to death and taking away their encouragement to take the chances and make the investments in making and building a small business. Right now, the hoops and regulations and TAXES are killing business in CA and in our country in general.
If governments continue to make it harder and harder, and less fair for those who DO the hiring of folks,then, as we see, these business owners will take their toys and go play elsewhere: for example, Texas and/or North Carolina or EVEN China! Steve Wynn, an Obama voter explains it quite clearly. Obama's way of thinking is only making Americans afraid to invest and take chances. Business is moving or waiting him out.

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

whocares21 - Lol. Wow, amazing. Not anything about Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush or Bush. Everything was just peachy keen under them I guess. No union busting by Reagan, wars or impeachment or anything like that ever happened. Not to mention the huge deficits run up by a few of them. But then deficits are so important that's why the Bush tax cuts had to be extended.

Yes, we are spending too much that is why taxes are at a 60 year low.

High Taxes? Actually, They're at a 60-Year Low

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/07/politics/main7326720.shtml

Reality 1. Tea Party 0.

pamsilleman

Hi guys, sorry, I don't know what else to tell you as for how or where or who the poll takers got their results. I just googled it (just like you could do) and found the answers I shared with you.
Nope the tea party is certainly NOT a political party, more like a 'club' of concerned citizens. Now, since the evolution of these parties, many PAC's have been established: one is the Tea Party Express, under the direction of Sal Russo. Sal is a campaign professional, he took the energy and support of the tea party and turned it into 'results' in the polls. We need folks like Sal to do the hard work, as we just witnessed in Wisconsin.

The results of the last election were historical, those are the numbers that count. I think the pollsters 'guess' and do their best, but the real answers come from the voting booth as we saw in November, when the Tea Party backed candidates made an historical showing and did, as we all know switch the control of the house back to the GOP. 2012 is next.

whocares21

Even now, we are having to live with bad presidential decisions. John F. Kennedy opening up unionization to federal employees; Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" that has bankrupted the nation and created the welfare state; Jimmy Carter's launching of the concept of giving mortgages to people who couldn't afford them, and Clinton's expanding of the idea; Clinton's ignoring the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center which did nothing but embold the forces that destroyed it in 2001. And these presidents were not anti-America. So one shudders to think what Obama is really putting in place that we'll never hear about until it's too late.

Go Tea Party! Time to stop the spending vomit.

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

Raven - You can't expect to get facts backed up by data from Ms. Silleman. As you said we are still waiting for the data to back up her claim that 90 million people are members of the Tea Party.

Good luck getting the information showing that there is actually a political party called the Tea Party. They create their own political party, run their own primary for President and not run in GOP primaries then you can say it is a real party.

This is a rebranding effort of the right wing extreme of this country after the Bush administration damaged the GOP brand so badly that no one ever brings Bush out to campaign for them.

Hey, Sal Russo (longtime GOP political operative) good job on creating that "grassroots" group called the Tea Party Express!

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

[quote]BananaMan said: "I'm prepared for a large group of old (baby boomer), white people who have nothing to do but complain about liberals and try to push Palin (who bailed on her governorship and knows nothing about history) to a crowd who is tired of hearing from bigots who claim Obama is a super secret socialist trying to make this country communist.Wake me up when they start dying off."[/quote]

That last bit cracked me up, thanks for the laugh.

wyngyrl

antipc, I wasn't asking for another tedious tea party distortion and criticism of our current president. I said, take a close look at the candidates you are offering to America for 2012. It's not an impressive line up, as was displayed in Iowa last night. If this is all the GOP has to offer, it does not bode well for conservatives.

Raven
Raven

and pam there is is also this poll,

"Gallup also asked registered voters how a Tea Party endorsement would affect their likelihood of voting for a congressional candidate. The effect is nearly 2-to-1 negative, with 42% saying they would be less likely to vote for such a candidate versus 23% saying they would be more likely. About a third say it would make no difference or are unsure.
Among registered voters, most Republicans say a Tea Party endorsement would either make them more likely to vote for a candidate (44%) or make no difference (42%), while most Democrats say it would make them less likely to vote for a candidate (66%). Independents' reactions are similar to the national average, with 25% more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by the Tea Party and 38% less likely...These results echo those of a separate question in the new survey showing that, by 20% to 14%, more Americans strongly oppose the Tea Party movement than strongly support it."

Raven
Raven

pam.....looking at all those comments and I cannot find a single one where you provide that data that shows nearly 1/3 of the entire nation, not just those who can vote, are a members of the tea party....so anytime you have real data, feel free to share it... actually, showing us where the tea party is listed as an actual political party would be a nice first step.
Polls of support are not the same and i would hope you know it...but heck why not address that Gallup polls of a couple weeks ago that shows only 26 percent of Americans support of or strongly the tea party..(aug 2011)

BananaMan

[quote]antipc said: "wyngyrl, take a look at what the progressives gave us.......BHO, the most inept president since Carter. No wait, in the history of the country.We were preached to that he's a great orator, he's above average in intelligence, he's the great unitor, he's transparent, and he'll change business as usual in DC.Not only is he none of those things, he's the complete polar opposite. Hope and change might as well have been unicorns and rainbows. "[/quote]

Most inept in the history of the country? You mean the Republican party's Richard Nixon? The only president to resign because he was so deep in criminal charges that the only way out was to get a pardon?

Clearly you don't know much about history.

BananaMan

I'm prepared for a large group of old (baby boomer), white people who have nothing to do but complain about liberals and try to push Palin (who bailed on her governorship and knows nothing about history) to a crowd who is tired of hearing from bigots who claim Obama is a super secret socialist trying to make this country communist.

Wake me up when they start dying off.

danfromnapa

The main thing tea party wants a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Not too much to ask for!

antipc
antipc

wyngyrl, take a look at what the progressives gave us.......BHO, the most inept president since Carter. No wait, in the history of the country.

We were preached to that he's a great orator, he's above average in intelligence, he's the great unitor, he's transparent, and he'll change business as usual in DC.

Not only is he none of those things, he's the complete polar opposite. Hope and change might as well have been unicorns and rainbows.

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

[quote]bimgroup said: "BauhausfanWho is paying for the event and the busses to bring in the "thousands" to the rally?I thought this was a "grassroots" organization?Since you sound like one of the 47% of Americans that don't pay taxes, it would sure be nice if you could stop by and make a donation!!The Tea Party is the best thing to happen to American politics in a long long time. This is what you call hope and change. Did I use someone elses line?"[/quote]

Sure got me figured out, lol. Now onto reality. The reason people don't pay Federal income taxes is because they make so little money they don't have to pay those taxes but they pay all the other ones just like everyone else. Now what you and the others who bash unions and other working folks don't get is why so many people are making so little money that they don't have to pay this particular tax. You never seem to have any wonder as to why.

pamsilleman

Thank you whocares 21:
Many groups try to make us out to be something we are not, I do not care who you sleep with, the color of your skin, where or IF you go to church. (see the makeup of real groups)

The Tea Party is all about FISCAL issues:

Wikipedia: The Tea Party movement is an American populist political movement that is generally recognized as conservative and libertarian,(here in Napa we have MANY Democrats in our group that feel their party has been 'taken over' by a new and different platform than the one they believe in) and has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.

It endorses reduced government spending, opposition to taxation in varying degrees, reduction of the national debt and federal budget deficit, and adherence to an originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution.

Like who would NOT agree to that? For holding on to these values, wanting a balanced budget, for instance, we are called hobbits and terrorists. Go Figure!!

pamsilleman

to itsroutine:...
You are getting the dinner/concert mixed up with the rally. (dinner is on 8/26)

The dinner/concert is $150 per person (almost full, so hurry if you want to come to that)

The FREE Rally is the next day on 8/27. Tea Party Express's Kick Off to the CNN Presidential Debate tour (at the Expo).

So come on down and meet some fun folks. We have great singers/bands, Presidential candidates, food and even WINE tasting! Since this is Napa, we adding WINE to this super rally.

Where are you getting your info? I better check the website; if it is hard to read and understand, I better fix it!

You are the first one to question this, but I will make sure the website is informative and simple to understand. Thanks, Pam

whocares21

Interesting how liberals accuse of racism. What's wrong with small government and people taking responsibility for themselves instead of relying on government? The govt. screws up everything it touches, so I will attend. This change is not what I was looking for and if Obama were any kind of leader, he'd wake up. This state especially, with it's liberal politics is a perfect example of what doesn't work! I like how those against the tea party make up lies about who funds it and spins it their own way to make it look bad. Keep trying, stats now show that 76% of those who voted Democrat in 2008 wish they had not done so. I just hope the Tea Party can find a viable candidate and not some kooky Christian that doesn't accept everyone! The tea party isn't about that, it's about fiscal conservativism.

wyngyrl

But Tea Party, PLEASE look at the candidates you are offering us - Michelle Bachmann? Rick Perry? Ron Paul? Rick Santorum? Newt Gingrich? Herman Cain? Truly, you can't be serious ... and please don't mention Sarah Palin because that star has fizzled. Not one of these candidates is viable, unless women, gays, minorities, voters under 45, non-Evangelicals and first time voters all stay home in 2012. Maybe that's what the Tea Party is hoping for. It's gonna be a long year and a half.

bipolarpunk

@Alixzander: YES, The Tea Party IS diverse. People with all different viewpoints, however, I understand that it's hard to comprehend when listening to those that spew the same-tired 1960's Rachel Maddow talking points and calling everyone with different views "racists".

bimgroup

Bauhausfan

Who is paying for the event and the busses to bring in the "thousands" to the rally?

I thought this was a "grassroots" organization?


Since you sound like one of the 47% of Americans that don't pay taxes, it would sure be nice if you could stop by and make a donation!!

The Tea Party is the best thing to happen to American politics in a long long time. This is what you call hope and change. Did I use someone elses line?

SouthCountyMark
SouthCountyMark

[quote]pamsilleman said: "Raven: As for big $$ supporting and paying for this, excuse me while I laugh.(is 35 MILLION dollars paid by Unions in Wisconsin 'big money' to you? that is what they just spent and lost, trying to recall Rep state senators)......you really do not know me or anything about the true grass-root Tea Party folks. I hope you come and get to know us. I have heard of the Koch Brothers, but darn it, no, they do not send me money. If you guys have their number though, I will give them a call and see if they would like to help out with these expenses and support my family! Nope, there is not an Acorn backed money laundry involved here. Just little ole' Americans, trying to restore freedom for our kids. thanks, Pa "[/quote]

WELL said, as usual. However, you are only spreading pearls before marxist/socialist swine. I salute your resolve; I am out of any of it, as the vitriole and hate from the progressives for me can only be assuaged by a revolution.

widgetman

Wow looks like a lot of open minded people here who get their facts from moveon.org and MSNBC

alixzander
alixzander

I love how right wingers, which are exclusionary by definition, will accuse "liberals" of being closed minding by simply calling them out when they make exclusionary, and yes even racist, comments.

itsroutine
itsroutine

[quote]kevin said: "What part about "free" don't you comprehend, itroutine?

Their website says this:

$150 per person, or $1000 for a reserved table for 8

I want to actually tea PARTY with them, not just hang out by the door.

pamsilleman

Raven: you must have missed my responses to you the last few times you asked the same question. The Register saves our comments, so if you will just hit on my name above it will take you to the link that gives your the specifics of the polls, who took them and their statistical results.

As for big $$ supporting and paying for this, excuse me while I laugh.(is 35 MILLION dollars paid by Unions in Wisconsin 'big money' to you? that is what they just spent and lost, trying to recall Rep state senators)......you really do not know me or anything about the true grass-root Tea Party folks. I hope you come and get to know us. I have heard of the Koch Brothers, but darn it, no, they do not send me money. If you guys have their number though, I will give them a call and see if they would like to help out with these expenses and support my family! Nope, there is not an Acorn backed money laundry involved here. Just little ole' Americans, trying to restore freedom for our kids. thanks, Pa

wyngyrl

Tea Party economic ignorance and their deliberate obstruction of common sense compromise has just cost me $8,000 from my shrinking 401k. Somehow, I don't feel very motivated to join this narrow-minded, ill-informed rally. I've seen the Thursday protests on Jefferson - all flags, no solutions. No thanks.

nikster21

1. I find it very interesting how liberals are the most closed minded people.
2. If Balancing the Budget is a 'radical' thing. WE ALL HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.
3. It's interesting how the 60 something tea party votes in congress got us into this mess. But the 4 years of a democrat congress and 3 years of Obama spent us into more debt then the previous 8 years,

Let's just all stick your heads in the ground and ignore the facts.

Raven
Raven

still waiting for the 90 million and growing tea party membership data pam....and I love groups of any kind promising appearances by someone but cant announce who that person or person may be...

alixzander
alixzander

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....the tea party diverse....what a joke!

ruralresident

Financially backed by the Koch Bros. and large corps.

I wonder how many bus loads of out-of-towners they will bring in to make it like a big rally.

jfz
jfz

After reading the anti-Tea Party comments by "MoveOn.org" and billionaire George Soros supporters, I'll definitely attend the rally.

bipolarpunk

WOW! So much hate spewed towards The Tea Party for thinking differently than that of the liberal utopians that have been successful at bankrupting our State and to some extent our country!

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

[quote]kkjp said: "kevin: Inflammatory, radical vitriole from any party does nothing to encourage open communication or problem solving, as we just witnessed with the debt ceiling debacle. On the contrary, it serves to intensify problems and ultimately costs us millions of dollars. Unless our leadership can come together in a civilized manner to resolve issues, our country will continue to suffer. Americans are, by and large, sick of this nonsense."[/quote]

So you think what just happened with the debt ceiling debacle was a bi-partisan effort?

One party is not full of extremists and gone over the cliff?

bipolarpunk

@Pam: I absolutely agree! The Napa Tea Party is a very diverse group of VARIOUS ethnic groups, ages and people of different political persuassians, not just "Conservative Republicans". I'm a young, part-Asian, Gay libretarian and I support the principles of small government and low taxes. I have attended Napa Tea Party events and have felt right at home! The Tea Party are fine folks!

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

[quote]kevin said: "What part about "free" don't you comprehend, itroutine? "the Tea Party's foundation is built on hate mongering and racism". Er, no, kkjp, THAT would be the Democrat Party..."[/quote]

The capacity of the human mind for delusion and lack of self reflection is amazing. In a group it is even more spectacular.

If we could somehow harness it we could power the planet many times over.

bipolarpunk

@itsroutine: Actually there is NO Price of Admission for the Tea Party Express at the Expo Center.

SouthCountyMark
SouthCountyMark

[quote]alixzander said: "Well, maybe you should work and EARN the money yourself....what would you prefer? For us to tax the job creators in society?The tea party is soo backwards. "[/quote]

No, I think it is your brand of marxism that keeps YOUR head from seeing light of day, Comrade.

kevin
kevin

kkjp, you should read some American history sometime.

You would find out that a "civilized manner" was a pretty scarce commodity during most of our past. What has served us well in the past (and what we need now) is LEADERSHIP from people who love this country and can clearly and passionatly articulate their ideology...

pettonap

I hope a list of participating restaurants and wineries is published so I'll know where NOT to spend my money.

Bauhausfan
Bauhausfan

Who is paying for the event and the busses to bring in the "thousands" to the rally?

I thought this was a "grassroots" organization?

Strange "grassroots" group that was started by Sal Russo a longtime GOP political operative.

kkjp

kevin: Inflammatory, radical vitriole from any party does nothing to encourage open communication or problem solving, as we just witnessed with the debt ceiling debacle. On the contrary, it serves to intensify problems and ultimately costs us millions of dollars. Unless our leadership can come together in a civilized manner to resolve issues, our country will continue to suffer. Americans are, by and large, sick of this nonsense.

pamsilleman

Hi everyone, I can tell from some of the above comments that you all need to come to the rally and meet real tea party patriots for yourselves and stop buying the hype. The Saturday rally is free to the public, so come and see a real tea party rally for yourself. Enjoy the music, great food/wine and meet the candidates for yourselves.

Education is a good thing, we know we should not believe all we read from anyone. Come to the rally and learn the truth. As for the green party: I wonder how they feel about their 2008 Presidential candidates recent world travels and statements? Cynthia McMcKinney: an interesting choice to say the least.

Hope to see you at the rally! thanks, Pam

alixzander
alixzander

[quote]itsroutine said: "I'm upset by the price to get into this thing, I thought this was supposed to be for the people, you know, us poor overtaxed Americans who never get a break."[/quote]

Well, maybe you should work and EARN the money yourself....what would you prefer? For us to tax the job creators in society?

The tea party is soo backwards.

kevin
kevin

What part about "free" don't you comprehend, itroutine?

"the Tea Party's foundation is built on hate mongering and racism". Er, no, kkjp, THAT would be the Democrat Party...


Gosh gee Batman I sure we have the right group but I don't specifically see the Joker. After all these years of working to bring to Napa a sense of esteem, culture, a higher notch on the bar...... Now we have the Tea Party, starting the tour of lunancy right here in Napa? Who is the big Napa money behind the event? Let me see........

MyWrites
MyWrites

Yawn...If Miichelle Bachman comes along it will primarily be for fine food and wine tasting like most of the tourists. She will probably be using federal grant dollars obtained from her "pray away the gay" clinic or the hard earned cash of her misguided and misled followers.

Tens of thousands? Kind of like Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" Rally in Washington DC which claimed half a million? About 90,000 actually showed (mostly white). Jon Stewart's response rally "Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear" estimated 60,000 and they got 215,000.

Pam Silleman - if you want the numbers invite Stephen Colbert!

itsroutine
itsroutine

I'm upset by the price to get into this thing, I thought this was supposed to be for the people, you know, us poor overtaxed Americans who never get a break.

Suze

I guess I should pencil this date in, we have SO much to thank the tea party for.
It would be nice to bring a few rotten foodstuffs along, but as it would qualify as assault, I will just join the other gang and shout my opinions.

kkjp

Today's letter to the editor from Bill Dyer speaks to the fact that the Tea Party's foundation is built on hate mongering and racism. It is no wonder that as voters witness the discord and extremism fomented by this group, its approval rating among voters nationwide is dropping like a stone.

Nappalachia

The traveling circus is coming to Napa? This outta be entertaining.

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