Reader discusses collectivist ideology, sustainable development

2012-11-15T22:03:00Z 2012-11-15T22:05:57Z Reader discusses collectivist ideology, sustainable developmentKevin Eggers Napa Valley Register
November 15, 2012 10:03 pm  • 

On Aug. 10, 2012, I met with Napa Mayor Jill Techel in her office in downtown Napa. Mayor Techel made a gesture of goodwill by suggesting that we should visit to talk about my concerns regarding Napa’s “sustainable community.” We discussed the “collectivist” ideology behind the sustainable community.

The sustainable community, as defined by United Nations Agenda 21 (and California), calls for government to manage every aspect of life within the community. A hundred years ago, public officials would have been tarred and feathered for suggesting government has the power to manage our everyday lives.

Americans today, however, accept being totally managed in a sustainable community as normal and necessary. What changed? America has been ideologically transformed into a collectivist nation.

Ideology is “a body of ideas that reflects the beliefs and interests of a nation.” Change ideology and you change America.

I showed Mayor Techel an original, hardbound American Historical Association’s “Conclusions and Recommendations — Report of the Commission on Social Studies” (printed 1934). The studies and resulting report were financed and endorsed by the Trustees of the Carnegie Corporation, which still influence public education today.

The report tells how public education was going to ideologically “transition” America from “traditional ideas and values” into “collectivism” to prepare Americans for a future in which “individual economic actions and individual property rights will be altered and abridged.”

I told Mayor Techel I’ve had university political science professors tell me, “There has never been a collectivist education plan for America.” I would show them the report and ask, “Then why did we have a collectivist education plan for America?”

How successful has public education been in the transition of America into collectivist ideology?

Under America’s traditional ideology, Americans understood every individual is born with natural (individual) rights outside the reach of government. Americans understood that our Bill of Rights tells government what rights government can’t touch.

Americans understood that individual rights are protected from whoever we elect and from federal, state and city government policies. Americans understood individual rights are the “freedom” Americans fought and died for.

Opposite of America’s traditional ideology is collectivism in which individual rights don’t exist. Instead, government distributes privileges to citizens, which government calls “rights.” All “rights” (meaning all citizens) are managed by government and must conform to the “common good” policies of society as determined by government.

An example of collectivism is the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 29 declares a citizen’s duty is to serve the “community” and all “rights and freedoms” must conform to the “purposes and principles” of the United Nations (totalitarianism).

This is opposite of our Bill of Rights, in which the purposes and principles of government must conform to protecting individual rights (freedom).

I explained to Mayor Techel how every politician since the beginning of time, including Stalin and Hitler, has told citizens, “We’re doing this for the common good.” Individual rights protect every American from a government that will always claim what it does is for the “common good.”

Under communist and Nazi collectivist ideology (like the United Nations) the citizen’s duty is to selflessly sacrifice for the community. Individual rights don’t exist in the community.

All “rights and freedoms” must conform to the “common good” policies of the community. Citizens have no protection from government, which will always claim what it does is for the “common good of the community.”

Lenin called communism the “perfect community.” One of the Nazi Party planks states, “The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all ... ”

March 21, 2012, I asked Napa County Sheriff John Robertson about the statement in our Napa County General Plan, which calls for the “rights of the individual to be balanced with the rights of the community.” Sheriff Robertson told me, “As you know, you surrender some of your rights to live in the community.”

When asked how individual rights are protected from community policies, Sheriff Robertson told me to “stop thinking outside the system and work from within the system.” I was told I needed to “join a council or committee and work on changing things from within.”

At the July 24 Napa City Council meeting (Mayor Techel was there) I explained what Sheriff Robertson said, and asked how individual rights are protected from “sustainable” policies. Napa’s city attorney said Napa follows the California State Constitution, which he said is based on the “common good.”

Napa government functions under collectivist ideology. What about Napa citizens? Is our duty to sacrifice our “rights and freedoms” for the “common good” policies of Napa’s sustainable community government?

Mayor Techel, thank you for your time.

Eggers lives in Napa.

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(36) Comments

  1. a teacher
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    a teacher - November 16, 2012 6:46 am
    My guess is that she smiled politely and tried not to make any sudden moves.
  2. freeport56
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    freeport56 - November 16, 2012 7:17 am
    "Golden State turns to lead, now leads poverty rankings." That is the headline in this mornings Daily Caller. 42 years of Democrats controlling our State Legislature has slowly lead our once great state into poverty. With the passage of Prop 30, the start of Cap & Trade, and the ObamaCare Taxes kicking in full bore Jan 1, 2013.....there is much more poverty to come.

    I mourn for my State.
  3. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 16, 2012 8:27 am
    Sustainable this debate, such as it is, means to wreak havoc, extort, local businesses first the construction and transportation sectors, then ag, tourist and restaurants, when they're ruined or controlled these then on to other government agencies like school districts, PD's, water districts etc...everything has to be under liberal control… where are the trade unions?... bought off again?

    Hasn’t warmed in 16 years and what little warming occurred was mainly prior to 1940 and even then well within historical norms.

    It's all about destroying our way of life so elite liberals can continue leeching off the system.
  4. fmmt47
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    fmmt47 - November 16, 2012 8:42 am
    You need to get a new sheriff, you never have to give up ANY of your rights to live in a community!
  5. napa333
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    napa333 - November 16, 2012 8:42 am
    The sheriff was right, you do need a hobby. You also forgot to mention the hobgoblins etc.
  6. nightwatchman
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    nightwatchman - November 16, 2012 8:51 am
    Our poor Mayor.
  7. 1Napanow
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    1Napanow - November 16, 2012 9:14 am
    Better get the aluminum foil for the Thanksgiving turkey now, because I expect to see a run on foil hat material after this letter.
  8. publiusa
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    publiusa - November 16, 2012 10:35 am
    Three comments: 1. Is the Napa County Republican Central Committee proud of their endorsement of the mayor. 2. The sheriff's responses are in line with local police resentment to citizen oversight. 3. The results of the recent election are an obvious sign that the government Santa Claus is fat and happy.
  9. just sayin
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    just sayin - November 16, 2012 10:46 am
    Read the letter twice and am stil not clear: What exactly are you saying should be changed, Mr. Eggers? I think your lengthy letter lacks a logical locus. (Had to amuse myself with alliteration just so I could feel that I got a small bit of use out of the time it took me to read this ...)
  10. shantz
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    shantz - November 16, 2012 11:37 am
    Also, don’t forget about the reptilians. They are the real ones behind Agenda 21.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/reptilian-conspiracy-theo_n_2090087.html
  11. gettingreal
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    gettingreal - November 16, 2012 12:02 pm
    For those of you who think that this is a tin foil hat convention, let me connect the dots for you. ICLEI which is the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives is UN Local. Jill Techel is a member of ICLEI.
    http://www.greentowns.com/initiative/icleicreating-climate-awareness-and-support-to-local-governments-committed-to-sustainability/iclei-member-napa-ca-napa-ca
    You think that the UN is not coming after your private property rights? Let's see what the UN itself says about that.
    http://sovereignty.net/p/land/unproprts.htm If you care about freedom you better wake up!
  12. napa333
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    napa333 - November 16, 2012 12:30 pm
    Napa county republican central committee should'nt be proud of any of the candidates they endorsed or the platforms they ran on. Had this election gone the other way the "wealthy"Santa Claus would be real fat and happy. Bush brought us two wars and medicare part D all unfunded, gave huge tax cuts to the wealthest among us and then ask the rest of us to tighten our belts and pay for it. Guess what? We just had an election and now it's time for the wealthy to tighten their belts and start paying the same tax rates as the middleclass working man. But you people keep listening to rove , limbaugh, o'reilly and fox news and you'll be having the same results and conversations with yourselves in four years. You think austerity programs only are going to fix our problems? Take a look at Europe. How's that working out for them? Elite liberals? I thought we were all lazy slackers part of the 47% with are hands in the pockets of the wealthy. Which is it? You can't have both ways.
  13. Joey_Amari
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    Joey_Amari - November 16, 2012 1:31 pm
    Ah, yes, the usual, um, comedians make their appearance. Go on, keep hiding behind your sarcasm, it's a sure sign of intelligence and understanding. Why not try address some of the points the writer is making? Some countering arguments? Too much to ask, I guess... Or maybe it's just that no one has the time. But I'd bet on it being the fact that they have nothing meaningful to say.

    I admire Mr. Eggers for confronting and questioning the local government types, but he had to know he wouldn't receive anything other than the standard drone-like responses. Although I suppose the sheriff's comment was a little telling. These are trends that have been going on for a long time now
  14. 1Napanow
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    1Napanow - November 16, 2012 3:25 pm
    Yes the UN black helicopters are going to swoop down and have their way with us.
    Anyone else appreciate the irony of "gettingreal" as a screen name. Tells you all you need to know.
  15. JSwift
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    JSwift - November 16, 2012 3:40 pm
    Actually, parasites such as leeches try to maintain the system as it is, so that they can continue to draw sustenance from their host indefinately.
    That would make conservatives the leeches of society.
  16. shantz
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    shantz - November 16, 2012 4:45 pm
    Agenda 21 is a non-binding resolution which specifically gives governments the sole authority to implement or not implement any aspects from the blue sprint. It can't impose anything on local governments.

    Also ICEL is NOT a part of the UN. It is an 501(c)(3) nonprofit association. Another paranoid delusion.

    Take your tin foil hat, conspiracy, chem trail, reptilian, Alex Jones nonsense back to your John Birch Society meetings.

    The most ridiculous dribble I've ever read.
  17. Lucy White
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    Lucy White - November 16, 2012 6:29 pm
    What is happening in this county is in accordance with Sustainable Development-Agenda 21. Twisted rhetoric has been used on good people to mean what it is not saying. “Conservation” = control of all lands and waters, the elimination of private property, downsizing of personal wealth, common good distribution of survival essentials. Vineyards are not sustainable in the UN’s global community - they are currently tolerated. The General Plan is constantly eroding rights, and creating obstacles for private businesses and property owners to manage and afford their properties. We have elitist socialist government suppressing us with an intended purpose – control [google Agenda 21 cities]. We have enormous potential. We do not need to be in this situation. Trillions of dollars in resources are in our lands. Responsible use of our lands and waters can create the jobs, economy and energy independence. We Need Sustainable Freedom – By The People For The People!!
  18. gettingreal
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    gettingreal - November 16, 2012 6:54 pm
    Regional, UN groups receive our tax dollars. Then they come around to our local, elected officials. They dangle this money like chunks of red meat over their heads. Of course they promote the Agenda. Money is power and they have it. ICEL? You mean ICLEI? Not part of the UN? I'm sure that's news to them since their the ones that created it. Apparently you haven't opened a history book. Otherwise you'd know where the road you're on ends.
  19. Marty
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    Marty - November 16, 2012 8:20 pm
    Dear Kevin, thank you again for educating us on the dangers of collectivism. Some of the responses have been odd. Tin foil, dribble, black helicoptors, not clear, get a hobby, and the most disturbing from a teacher, the mayor tried not to make any sudden moves. Your article was very clear about how big gov't will take away citizen's individual rights. I hope none of the people who responded support this. Read books like Shakedown Socialism by Oleg Atbashian, he survived collectivism in the Soviet Union. Execution By Hunger The Hidden Holocaust by Miron Dolot, he survived Stalin's collectivization of Ukrainian farms. It was a horriffic nightmare. Millions were tortured and starved to death. This is a bipartisian issue, both parties are leading us in this direction. I'm surprised to see the people who support big gov't don't support the police or military. What do they think is going to happen under a collectivist authoritarian gov't? Reading, How We Survived Communism and Even Laughed
  20. Napa5gen
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    Napa5gen - November 17, 2012 1:20 pm
    Agree!
  21. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 17, 2012 1:24 pm
    Shazam!
  22. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 17, 2012 1:46 pm
    Strangely enough, I find myself contemplating the concerns of Mr. Eggers - though I'll save my tinfoil to barbecue trout.

    According to "Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling," author John Taylor Gatto makes a fairly convincing case for Carnagie influence in the development of contemporary and compulsory education. Gatto is no tinfoil nutjob either. This book, and the subject in general, is well worth a read.

    Although he may have taken this path quite by accident, what Eggers is ultimately pointing out is the problem of long-term population growth and its management. Remember that US freedoms were birthed on the plains of the American frontier. Rugged individualism and the freedom needed to support this individualism were vital necessities.

    But does such individualism have a place in today's world? China appears to "successfully" manage over a billion people. Is the management of such numbers even possible without severe restrictions on liberties?
  23. Joey_Amari
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    Joey_Amari - November 17, 2012 4:24 pm
    Yeah! Agreed! The reeducation camps ready yet?
  24. Joey_Amari
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    Joey_Amari - November 17, 2012 4:29 pm
    Wrong. U.S. freedoms were birthed in reaction to an overbearing, tyrannical government. But at least people like you are becoming more open about your desires for "severe restrictions on liberties." And you might want to update your reading list; population time-bomb alarmist theories of the 70's have been debunked. As societies become more advanced and prosperous the birthrate falls. Western Europe and the United States have birthrates well below replacement levels (aside from the immigrant populations).
  25. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 17, 2012 6:53 pm
    Right Joey. Also, George Washington never told a lie, John Henry died with a hammer in his hand, and Davy Crockett killed a bar at three years old.

    I would highly recommend James Beard's "An Economic Interpretation of the United States." You might find it enlightening.

    Further, I never said I "desired" anything. I was merely asking a question. I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist but historically government follows economic development. As our world becomes more inextricably connected through globalization, how do you think our governments will follow?

    You assume too much Mr. Amari. I never sounded the "alarm" on anything. Simple logic would conclude that our globe has only so many resources to sustain a growing population. This concept is well established in biology.

    Globalization means that the fates of "advanced" societies are linked to those of less advanced means. Theorists of the 70's could never foresee the level of interconnectedness of today's world.
  26. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 17, 2012 6:57 pm
    woops...make that Charles Beard
  27. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 18, 2012 6:13 am
    Well well swift how many jobs have you created?
    How many people are dependant on you?
    How much to you contribute in service, taxes and donations?

    I'll be little to none.

    NVR must of had a freebie special rate....the liberals can out of the wood work...
  28. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 18, 2012 6:34 am
    Liberals can’t see the message because he’s referring the liberal modus… the flip side is few see benefit in endless meetings, meetings for meetings.. …little to nothing gets down while the meter keeps running.
    Liberalism does not do well with initiative or change, management wise; ultimately it boils down to avoiding solutions until everyone agrees…imagine that in athletics, business even education why grade or test give to them….it just does not work management and as we see it is not close to being sustainable. That’s their goal and they’re willing to waste every tax dollar they can….but it defies human nature, impedes progress.
    Didn’t use to be that way….their use to be Fiscal Liberals who knew what they were doing.
  29. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 18, 2012 8:56 pm
    You can call them "Job Creators" when they create jobs people can actually live on. They are nothing like the true captains of industry our nation saw during the late forties, fifties, and early sixties - the era when the middle-class was strongest. Those were true "job creators," not like the sociopathic mercenaries we see today.
  30. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 19, 2012 9:37 am
    Foustie... not sure what or even if you have a point ..but it sure comes across being typically liberal…lame and blame....anyway... If you haven’t noticed we’re beyond the black and white media era for decades. Since the end of your golden age the middle class continued to grow right up until Obama took office...image that and all we have to do to get it growing again is remove the government corruption that caused our meltdown. Having an economic illiterate in the White House isn't much help.
    Liberalism is the problem not the solution…every competitive economy today is based off our model…prior to Clinton.
    It’s hard to debate the world economy when liberals never understood our national economy....thinking business is a piece of cake, easy as pie...silly...greed-greed. So liberal.
    If you really want to go back to that era all you have to is move to Greece or Spain ….
  31. balance
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    balance - November 19, 2012 11:02 am
    Actually Dr. Faustus, I think you had the only thoughtful response to this letter. Eggers never does spell out what "individual freedoms" he is worried about losing, but he seems to imply property ownership rights and your comments on population growth and management make sense to me.

    I can't picture individual real property ownership rights being at serious risk in this large country of ours, but there are and always have been limits on ownership and what you can do with your property. Call it regulation if you want. Regulation can be overdone (and people can and will protest when that happens), but some amount is clearly necessary.
  32. vocal-de-local
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    vocal-de-local - November 19, 2012 11:53 pm
    Dr Faustus, reading "Dumbing Us Down" gave me the motivation I needed to homeschool my kids. No regrets. They are free thinkers today.

    And your point about the relationship between greater levels of population and increased restrictions on liberties is spot on.

    One example is water. The more mouths we must feed the more food we must grow. Water tables go down (I just watched Ken Burns Dust Bowl tonight and the aquifer is drastically dropping to the point that the Dust Bowl land may once again be competely dry and put out of ag production). What follows are restrictions on water usage, for example, ag lands must have metered water and there are fines for growing residential lawns - Agenda 21 stuff.

    I absolutely admire rugged individualism but as population levels grow, I guarantee we will be dealing with greater restrictions and more environmental control.

    Great discussion Eggers. Glad you brought it up. Kudos to Dr. Faustus for addressing the obvious.
  33. vocal-de-local
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    vocal-de-local - November 20, 2012 12:24 am
    Ugh Joey, the immigration population doesn't count? Hello, they are still people who utilize resources which is the reason we cannot simply turn a blind eye to world population growth, especially given our increasing economic and resource dependency on other countries.

    Right now, the U.S. can't even pump water out of the ground without the use of fossil fuels. Without water we don't produce enough food for even our own population let alone a worldwide population. When some crisis sets in motion a resource war, trust me, fossil fuels will be used as leverage and we will be squeezed by expense.

    This may not be the exact prediction of 70s population experts but there are alarming consequences. For starters, we have increased cancer rates growing alongside increased population growth . Air and water are not very clean. We have pharmaceuticals in our water. Increased hormones are in our food supply and now we have GMOs (used to increase food production for a growing population).
  34. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 20, 2012 10:36 am
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    Very well,, said Lucy....adding on there is absolutely nothing about liberalism that is sustainable, not them not their policies…the entire myth of sustainability is and has been one Trojan horse after another…whether man made warming scam, freddie/fannie scam, war on poverty scam, whatever the touch they ruin by gutting is financially stealing the assets….nevertheless they have the upper hand in blue states for sure.
    Public ed or a lack of thereof, is a big reason this state went from the best managed state in the country to DEAD LAST…. mirrors implementing the liberal agenda
  35. glenroy
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    glenroy - November 20, 2012 10:38 am
    Excellent Joey...

    Pay no attention to those who live off your taxes......they will do and say anything that keeps them from having to find a job.
  36. Dr_Faustus
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    Dr_Faustus - November 20, 2012 2:06 pm
    "I absolutely admire rugged individualism but as population levels grow, I guarantee we will be dealing with greater restrictions and more environmental control."

    Agreed. Other than investing trillions in colonizing the galaxy restricting liberties would perhaps be the only ethical solution to the problem. Even then, the solutions to unrestricted population growth is an issue of containment and mitigation and not necessarily stopping or reversing the trend.

    The only alternatives to liberty restriction I can think of would be nightmarish, i.e. active population control. Even taking a hands-off approach could mean large seas of dismal poverty surrounding small islands of relative wealth and influence. Neither option would be very conducive to social stability.

    Restricting liberties while providing for basic community services such as healthcare etc., could provide the stability needed to give us time to seek longer-term solutions.

    Which does the least harm for the most "good?"
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